The Procurement Show Podcast


Tackling the hot procurement topics we all need to be thinking about, The Procurement Show sets out to explore the more interesting aspects of procurement! Hosted by procurement expert and award-winning author of a series of acclaimed procurement and negotiation books,
and the CEO of Positive Purchasing, Jonathan O’Brien.




Latest Episode
February 2024

Episode 35 – The Future of Procurement Intake and Orchestration with Nick Heinzmann

Jonathan and Paul are joined by Nick Heinzmann. Nick is Head of Research at Zip, providing “intake to procure and intake to pay solutions”. We discover exactly what intake is and what it means for the global marketplace and for the future of procurement teams in every industry. Jonathan also has the latest traffic news, particularly for ice truckers…

January 2024

Episode 34 – How to Build a Responsible Supply Chain

Jonathan and Paul are joined by Justin Dillon, CEO of FRDM. As an artist, entrepreneur and humanitarian, his work has awakened a global movement and helped change laws as well as lives. So, who better to tackle this subject? We also discover that Jonathan could possibly be a genie…

November 2023

Episode 33 – The Power of NLP – Release Your Inner Procurement Professional

Jonathan and Paul are joined by Martin Crump. Martin runs Evolution Online, helping procurement teams all over the world as a coach, consultant and NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) Master Trainer. Martin tells us what NLP is and how it can help all departments in businesses of all sizes, not only in procurement. We also discover whether or not Paul has any friends.

October 2023

Episode 32 – The Future of Procurement

Jonathan and Paul are joined by Dr Elouise Epstein. Elousie is the author of Disruptive Procurement and the new book, Trade Wars, Pandemics and Chaos. She is also a partner at Kearney. Together they discuss the future of procurement, including the impact of AI. Elsewhere in the podcast we learn how to pronounce Arkansas.

September 2023

Episode 31 – Transforming Procurement from a Zero Base

In this episode, Jonathan and Paul explore how to build high-performance strategic procurement from the ground up. In order to talk through this, they’re joined by CPO of Green Cargo in Sweden, Andreas Takacs.

August 2023

Episode 30 – I Hate Procurement

In this episode, Jonathan O’Brien and Paul Philpott are joined by Marcus Evans who has spent 30 years in advertising running agencies including Ogilvy BBDO and TBWA, where new business (sales) was one of his main activities. They look at how procurement teams cope when they’re faced with highly trained salespeople. Marcus is now a lead trainer for Positive Purchasing’s Red Sheet Negotiation program. A while back he told us that, when he was negotiating with his advertising clients, he came to “really hate Procurement!” So we had to find out why he came over to what he calls “The Dark Side….”.

July 2023

Episode 29 – Procurement’s Role to Drive Social Value

In this episode, Jonathan O’Brien and Paul Philpott look at how procurement can help drive sustainability, how this changes in the public sector and what the public sector needs to do differently. Jonathan and Paul’s guest is Guy Battle, who works across multiple industries developing sustainability solutions for businesses. He’s currently co-chair of the Public Sector Chapter of the Sustainable Procurement Pledge in the UK and CEO of Social Value Portal.

June 2023

Episode 28 – How ALDI is Driving Sustainability Across its Supply Chains

In this episode, Jonathan O’Brien and Paul Philpott look at procurement behind the everyday things we buy with Katharina Wortmann, Director of Sustainability Strategy for ALDI SOUTH Group. They discuss how sustainable the things we buy really are, what retailers are doing to drive sustainability and the work that goes into supplier relationships. And where did Katharina get that t-shirt…?

May 2023

Episode 27 – Navigating the Procurement Tech Landscape

In this episode, Jonathan O’Brien and Paul Philpott discuss the immense procurement tech landscape, which is no easy thing to navigate. They’re helped through this overwhelming topic by digital procurement advisor, Founder of the site '' and Presenter of the Procuretech podcast, James Meads. Together they attempt to understand what’s out there and James might even get in some skiing and possibly a kebab!

April 2023

Episode 26 – Focus on Sweden

In this episode, Jonathan O’Brien and Paul Philpott discuss Sweden. This is the first Procurement Show of many that will look at how procurement and supply chain varies around the world with a focus on what is happening in specific countries In many respects, Sweden is leading the way, so where better to start? To guide Jonathan and Paul through their Swedish podcast is Anette Lindbom – President of SILF (the Swedish procurement and logistics training and certification awarding body) and Procurement Director at Nolato Medi Tech (specialist advanced injection moulding company supplying the pharma and medtech industry). There will be very few mentions of ABBA and Ikea.

March 2023

Episode 25 – Everybody’s Talking

In this episode, Jonathan O’Brien and Paul Philpott discuss the importance of understanding and managing body language in a negotiation. Body language has often been mentioned in previous editions of the Procurement Show, so this time Jonathan dedicates an entire episode to it. How it can help in negotiation, how you can tell what someone is really communicating to you and tips on what you should avoid revealing with your body language.

February 2023

Episode 24 – The Procurement Show Meets Kelly Barner

In this episode, Jonathan O’Brien and Paul Philpott are joined by Kelly Barner, Co-Founder and Managing Director of Buyers Meeting Point, a Partner and Head of Content with Art of Procurement and host of Dial P for Procurement and Sourcing Hero. They take a general look at what’s going on in the world of procurement and give us plenty to think about in 2023.

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