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The Procurement Show Podcast
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Tackling the hot procurement topics we all need to be thinking about, The Procurement Show sets out to explore the more interesting aspects of procurement! Hosted by procurement expert and award-winning author of a series of acclaimed procurement and negotiation books, and the CEO of Positive Purchasing, Jonathan O’Brien, alongside Co-Host, Managing Director of a leading communications agency, Fresh Air Studios, Paul Philpott.



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Latest Episode
March 2025
50:50
Episode 53 – Trump, Tariffs & Trade – A Procurement Show Special
A podcast about Tariffs.
It’s hard to escape the news of US President Donald Trump and the various tariffs he’s either been introducing, suggesting he’s going to introduce or that he introduces, then moves the date around. So, what does this mean for businesses inside and outside the United States? How are those in procurement supposed to react? And where will it all lead? And what are tariffs anyway? Jonathan and Paul discuss tariffs, the wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, the relationships between the US, UK, Canada, Europe, Russia and China and take a close look at President Trump’s negotiation tactics. Essential listening before everything changes again…!
March 2025
31:28
Episode 52 – Making What We Buy Sustainable
In this edition Jonathan and Paul venture outside the world of procurement and focus on how organizations need to approach driving sustainability for what is made. They also look at how people in the roles of design, development and manufacturing might need to rethink how they engage with procurement. In the driving seat for this journey is Product Sustainability Director of TetraPak, Kristina Andric. She actually left procurement to take on this role. Jonathan is still recovering from this shocking revelation.
February 2025
46:29
Episode 51 – What’s Trending in Procurement Tech?
If you’re drowning in a sea of procurement tech, you need someone to throw a lifeline; and on this episode, Jonathan and Paul have found just the man. They are joined by Chief Research Officer and MD at Spend Matters, Pierre Mitchell. He’ll guide us through all the latest tech and will teach us one or two new bits of jargon.
February 2025
60:02
Episode 50 – Fiftieth Episode
Jonathan and Paul celebrate fifty episodes of the Procurement Show by selecting highlights from their favourite guests as they cover five themes: technology, AI, sustainability, procurement excellence and people. They also invite members of the backstage team to select their favourite past guests and to offer up an obscure fun fact. Bring on the cake and Champagne!
January 2025
29:22
Episode 49 – The Importance of Soft Skills and Emotional Intelligence in Procurement
Good emotional intelligence – or EQ – can be an important factor in a successful and healthy life, both personally and professionally. But what is emotional intelligence? Can you learn it? Can you teach it? And how can it help us be more successful in procurement? Jonathan and Paul speak to “The Procurement Protagonist” himself, Tom Mills to find out all this and more. Hopefully, he can help Jonathan to stop being a “such and such”.
December 2024
39:08
Episode 48 – Tony’s Chocolonely
Much excitement in the studio this episode, as it involves talking about chocolate. Jonathan and Paul are joined by Pascal Baltussen, Chief of Impact & Operations at Tony’s Chocolonely. They discover why it’s Tony’s Chocolonely’s mission to eliminate child labour from the chocolate manufacturing industry. What do they do? How do they do it? Why don’t others in the industry follow their lead? And did Paul eat all the chocolate that was brought into the studio? Find out the answers to these and other very important questions…
November 2024
34:50
Episode 47 – Lessons from the Frontlines
There’s an old song by Oasis where they sing about starting a revolution from their bed. In this episode we meet someone who did exactly that. Well, from his bedroom in Pennsylvania during lockdown. Luká Yancopoulos founded Grapevine – a company using tech to reimagine the world’s medical supply challenges – and without any prior knowledge of procurement. Jonathan and Paul find out how and why he did it. We also discover that Jonathan and Paul are quite old.
November 2024
45:13
Episode 46 – Is Procurement Undervalued (and Can Tech Help?)
Jonathan has been out and about in Amsterdam (but he very sensibly didn’t take Paul with him…) The reason for his travels was DPW – the most notable conference and digital tech showcase for those in the procurement world. You can hear from lots of people that Jonathan met, but most prominently he talks to Michelle Baker, CPO of Virgin Money, who discusses a wide range of procurement topics, with a focus on technology and AI. We also find out if Jonathan still possesses any of his old vinyl…
October 2024
38:31
Episode 45 – Why Procurement Tech Implementations Fail
There’s a lot of old and crusty tech out there that can often be of little use these days. But why is it that when some new procurement tech is implemented, it can often be not up to scratch or can even fail altogether…? In order to investigate this, we have CEO of Kinetic Talents and an Advisor to Apty, Matt Palackdharry. Unsurprisingly the question of AI pops up. Perhaps more surprisingly, Paul wants to bring back Clippy.
September 2024
35:31
Episode 44 – Cyber Security in the Supply Chain
In procurement, cyber security is extremely important, because you’re not only dealing with your information, but also the information of your clients and suppliers. So, how do we tackle threats? And how do we make sure our information is secure in the hands of others? To take us through the dilemmas and the solutions, Jonathan and Paul are joined by the Chief AI Officer at Resilinc, Sumit Vakil. And listen out for what you should and shouldn’t measure in Ask Jonathan.
August 2024
38:40
Episode 43 – The RFP is Dead! Long Live the RFP.
A bold statement, but is it true? Why do RFP’s fail? Is all the technology and the ever-evolving AI making RFP irrelevant? To guide us through all of this and more, Jonathan and Paul are joined by a man who makes RFP’s easier and more sensible, Chris Heard, CEO of Olive Technologies. We now just need to figure out who Duncan is and what his role is in all of this.
July 2024
38:40
Episode 42 – Why We Need to Orchestrate Procurement Tech
There is a lot of new tech about and there will no doubt be more on the horizon, but why does so much procurement tech implementation fail? There is a need to “orchestrate our tech”. But what does that mean? To help them find out, Jonathan and Paul are joined by a self-proclaimed “Procurement Geek” – namely, the Co-Founder at ORO Labs, Lalitha Rajagopalan. Elsewhere in this episode, Paul invents a new word.